Commissioner Ziegler’s proposal for ban on Sarasota County sanctuary policies put off until after legislative session concludes

Commissioner Detert protests that resolution not appropriate for county, but joins colleagues in agreeing to defer discussion

Commissioner Christian Ziegler. Rachel Hackney photo

Sarasota County Commissioner Nancy Detert pushed back the hardest. Nevertheless, the three other board members joined her this week in asking Commissioner Christian Ziegler to wait until after the conclusion of the Florida legislative session to bring back before them a resolution calling for the prohibition of sanctuary policies for undocumented immigrants charged with crimes in Sarasota County.

State Sen. Joe Gruters of Sarasota — who also is chair of the Florida Republican Party — has sponsored a bill that would give the state attorney general the authority to take action against local governments adopting sanctuary policies.

Ziegler is vice chair of the state Republican Party.

“This is one of the top issues that came up last year when I was running for this office,” Ziegler said on April 9 as he brought up his proposed resolution during the Board Reports segment of the commission’s regular meeting in Venice.

The resolution says, in part, “The Board of County Commissioners directs the County Administrator to ensure that neither the County Administrator nor his staff develop, endorse, or enforce policies which knowingly prohibit or impede communication or cooperation with a federal immigration agency with respect to federal immigration enforcement, including, but not limited to, limiting or preventing a state entity, local governmental entity, or law enforcement agency from lawfully: a) Complying with an immigration detainer; b) Initiating an immigration status investigation; or c) Assisting or cooperating with a federal immigration officer as reasonable or necessary.”

“People are concerned,” Ziegler stressed to his colleagues.

Then he pointed out that since Sheriff Tom Knight took office in 2009, “513 criminal immigrants from 35 countries” had been deported from Sarasota County. Among the nations of origin for those people, Ziegler continued, were England, Scotland, Poland and Russia.

As of Feb. 12, Ziegler added, 54 foreign-born arrestees were in the Sheriff’s Office’s custody, and 13 had “ICE interest,” which essentially meant — he said — that they had been flagged by U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) for deportation.

“We have an outstanding sheriff,” Ziegler told his colleagues. “Unfortunately, we’re not always going to have Sheriff Knight in that seat.”

Ziegler added that he does not believe that County Administrator Jonathan Lewis has any intention of seeking a sanctuary designation for the county.

However, Ziegler continued, future commissions and future sheriffs may have a different view about cooperating with ICE. “All this resolution does is send a message to future boards, future sheriffs, the community … that we will continue our commitment to following the rule of law and work with the federal government to tackle illegal immigration.”

He also stressed, “This focuses on criminal illegals. This is nothing against immigration.”

This is a copy of the resolution Commissioner Ziegler proposed for board consideration on April 9. Image courtesy Sarasota County

Ziegler noted that his own father lives in Serbia. Moreover, he said, later that day, he planned to fill out the necessary paperwork to seek a Green Card to bring his brother legally to the U.S. from Serbia.

Chair Charles Hines did point out that, by law, one county commission cannot bind future boards to any policy.

Board member reactions

Commissioner Nancy Detert. File photo

“This is like lighting a match in a woodpile,” Commissioner Detert said of the proposed resolution. “I don’t think it’s what the county does.”

She was the first board member to propose waiting until after the legislative session concludes in May to discuss the issue again. “Let’s see if there are any changes at the state level.”

Then Detert pointed out that if the board approved the resolution, the action is “going to fill up the [Commission Chambers]. It’s going to make it a political circus” and take up time the board members could be spending on issues such as affordable housing, growth and beach renourishment. “To me, those are the things that we have some control over.”
Commissioner Alan Maio then said, “I don’t have a problem with this [proposal].” Nonetheless, he concurred with the suggestion that Ziegler wait for the outcome of Gruters’ efforts on the bill in the Legislature.

Ziegler pointed out that he felt passage of the resolution that day would express “our community support” for Gruters’ initiative.

As of April 9, when checking the proposed legislation’s status in the Florida Senate’s online records, the News Leader found that an amended version of Senate Bill 168 last saw action on March 14, when it had its first reading during a meeting of the Senate Infrastructure and Security Committee.

Commissioner Michael Moran concurred with Maio on April 9, adding that he would like to be able to talk with Knight himself about the proposed resolution.

“I did run this by the sheriff,” Ziegler responded. “He was OK with it.”

Other county commissions in Florida, Ziegler pointed out, “basically have tied [the hands of] their local law enforcement … I think this is an issue that the public overwhelmingly supports.”

“It is a very political hot button,” Chair Charles Hines said. Further, Hines pointed out, “Sheriff Knight is a separately elected constitutional officer. … He runs the jail on our behalf,” though the commission funds the jail operations.

“The County Commission controls the purse strings,” Ziegler concurred with Hines’ latter statement.

“I fully support” Knight’s cooperation with ICE, Hines continued, noting that he also had told Gruters he supports the bill in the Legislature. However, Hines said, the resolution “really takes us a little sideways on something we’re already doing … I don’t know what this gains us.”

“I just think you’re creating a firestorm where you don’t need to,” Detert told Ziegler.

“Hopefully, we can consider this in the future,” Ziegler said.

Hines suggested that that would be appropriate. “We’ll have a packed house, probably of both sides.”